im not saying they will forever suck, its good that they are returning all those people. but as of right now they suck. they may have turned around but are still 0 and 2 in the ACC and they have to play UVa still. So most likely 0 and 3. Next year they should be good and a good competitor but right now they just arent on the same playing fields as many of theyre opponents. Denver isnt doing well at all this year, OSU is doing ok but not even in the top 20, neither is Dartmouth and Notre Dame is having problems. They let a 6-1 lead go to Duke, no team should let that lead go and lose 9-7. They got beat by Navy like 17-9 or something and now they lost to Maryland. Right now they suck. Maybe not the same case next year, but right now they do.