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West Coast Lax
by boomerw on September 30, 2003

All right, its time for you to go to practice, but this isn’t a normal beginning spring frigid practice. Picture this, it’s a nice spring day, it’s not too hot, and it’s not too cold, it’s what some may call perfect weather. You don’t mind going to practice and missing this day, because it’s like that almost everyday of the week. That is what it is like when you play lacrosse on the West Coast and in Southern California. Not much has been heard about lacrosse outside the East Coast, but now because of teams like The Whittier Poets, people are starting to a glance across the country to see what’s going on.

The best way for us to look at this coast's new lacrosse phenomenon was to sit down with a Coach and some players who have experienced both sides of the spectrum. So I got a hold of Whittier’s Head Coach David Schaller and two of his East Coast players to see how they can compare playing lacrosse on the two coasts. Coach Schaller grew up in a small town, Westfield New Jersey; he was captain at Rutgers University, and has played lacrosse most of his life. While in college Coach Schaller was one of the top face off guys in the country for the Scarlet Knights and soon after college moved across the country to San Diego. There he coached Tory Pines High School and led them to their first ever state final game. After a successful first season with Tory Pines he was offered an assistant position for the Poets. He packed up and moved up the coast to become the offensive coordinator. Coach Schaller help lead the Poets to a 11-2 season where they lost to Middlebury by one in the NCAA Quarter finals. Having success in California almost wasn’t good enough for Coach Schaller. He had aspirations of playing still, and almost came back to the East Coast when he made the New Jersey Pride. After his decision to turn down the Pride, he was offered the head coaching job at Whittier because long time coach Doug Locker decided to leave and become the A.D at Notre Dame de Namur University in Belmont, CA. Dave has been at Whittier ever since coach Locker has left and guided the Poets to the NCAA tournament last year with a 10-1 record and a loss in the NCAA Tournament to D3 powerhouse Salisbury.

Then there’s the Poets goalie Adam Messick from Media, Pennsylvania and defender Aaron Jaffe from Wynnewood, Pennsylvania. Both of these players decided to leave the East Coast and make the trip over to the other side of the country to play lacrosse. Adam who started for the Poets last year had 73 saves, a save percentage of 0.537, and over all rating of 39.184. Jaffe, a third team All-American, who stands at 6’1 and weighs in at 195 pounds was one of the key pieces of a tremendous season the poets had last year that puzzled a large part of the lacrosse community. Jaffe’s quick feet and hands helped take the ball away so Messick would not see the ball as much. The Poets where ranked as high as number one of the country, and made it to the semi-finals of NCAA tournament this past season (the highest Whittier has ever gone).

With the weather, good lacrosse, and a growing college program are more high school kids looking to go to schools like Whittier? So, once again the powers that be from lax.com where nice enough to fly me across the country so I could sit down with these Poets and see how the West Coast lacrosse experience is going for them.

Coach Schaller’s Question/Answers:

Is it hard to get other colleges to come out and play you? It's not easy. You are asking other coaches to fundraise, which is something they may not be obligated to do. Also, since we have had some recent success, teams are less likely to travel across the country and play a game that may not be a sure win.

How is it for you to go on away trips to play other schools? How do you raise the funding (if so what do you do) The guys on the team do a couple of things to fundraise. For instance, one of the things we are doing this year is selling ESPN magazine subscriptions. For $40 you get a 2-year subscription and then we get to keep $30 of that. Do you want to buy one? Sorry, I’m an SI guy, but hit me up around Christmas time. I heard they make good gifts. Other ways we fundraise are through gifts to the team from parents, and generous friends of Whittier lacrosse.

How is it for you to go on away trips to play other schools? It's a lot of fun. The guys have the opportunity to travel across the country. For example, during our spring break we travel to the East Coast over a ten-day period. It definitely builds team character.

When can you guys make the trips (it’s got to be tough to find the time during the school year)? We usually make two big trips in a year. The first trip is our East Coast trip during our spring break. The players do not miss class, and can concentrate on lacrosse as well as having a good time. Our second trip is a weekend trip where we play two games in two days. A Fri. or Mon. class may be missed, but the players are responsible for making up whatever work is missed.

How do you get your recruits? We get our recruits through coaches recommendations, as well as expressed interest from players that want to play top tier lacrosse, get a great education from a small, private, liberal arts college; all the while being in Southern California. I will talk to players by phone or via e-mail and have them come out for a visit to see if they like what Whittier has to offer.

Where is the majority of your team from? The United States. I say this partly kidding around because we have players from all over the country as well as a number of Canadian players. For instance, our starting lineup was from, MD, Canada, Canada, PA, PA, Texas, PA, Canada, CA, and MD. Then we have players from NY, MN, WA, AZ, etc.

Are there any new Poets that might make an immediate impact for you this season? Yes, we have brought in a number of players that will add depth and who will compete for playing time. The best part is that not one of them sticks out as the All-Star of the group, and they will all grow together and learn our system together.

You have seen both East Coast and West Coast lacrosse. What is the biggest difference? The biggest difference is in the number of kids that play. The East Coast has a lot more kids playing the game than the West Coast. At the same time, the game is growing extremely fast on the West Coast, probably too fast. In other words, it not only takes good athletes, but it takes a support cast of parents and ex-players to make the game grow and be successful. And by successful, I mean teaching the technical aspects of the game.

At the college level, I have my players do what I know will make them be successful. I think we have gotten a reputation in the past couple of years for a run and gun style of lacrosse. The simple matter is that sometimes we push the ball and sometimes we don't, regardless we find a way to put a number of points on the board.

Back to my question earlier about the scheduling. You have gotten a lot of criticism about you lack of games and the teams you play. You told me you have contacted a majority of the top coaches, but they do not want to come out to play you. What is there reasoning for not coming out to play you? Who are your critics? Anyone who has any idea about how things work would tell you that Whittier does everything they can to schedule enough games at home or on the road. It's a tough situation. Most schools schedule a couple of years in advance. They are also a member of a conference. We are an Independent that is over a thousand miles away from it's nearest opponent. As an Independent, we do not have the luxury of knowing year in and year out who will be on our schedule. I think Whittier has done a lot for the game of lacrosse, and people need to understand there is only so much we can do. We already travel more than any other team in any Division, and play one of the most difficult schedules in the country, not counting the travel factor. Colorado College is in the same boat. I will say this, it's frustrating to see schools go down to Florida and play other NCAA schools in a state that does not have one NCAA school. It would cost the same amount to come out to play in California, help the growth of the sport, and teams would play in the same type of weather that they would get in Florida.

So, its not like your not TRYING to play the schedule you do, it’s just your location. How do you think the Poets would be if they where an East Coast team?
That's why we come to the East Coast on our spring break. We want to see how we would do. And if you look at the last two years, we have gone undefeated in each one of those trips. Does that answer your question?


You guys have already had some controversy follow you guys with you ranking last season, what does this season look like for you? Anymore surprise or tricks up your sleeve? We should have another great season.

Players Question/ Answers:

Why did you choice to go to Whittier?

AM I didn’t get recruited out of high school; I originally went to a small state school, and then transferred here freshman year (2000).

AJ I went on a recruiting trip at the beginning of my senior year and I saw a lot of potential in the program. I thought that in two or three years the school would be competing for a national title. I also didn't want to spend a year or two on the bench at a D1 school. But most of all it was an adventure. Here I was going 3,000 miles to the other side of the country to play at a little school in a place where most people haven't even heard of the sport.

How did you hear about the school?

AM From a friend, Joe Romano was a player here and then he became an assistant coach. He was a friend of mine and he got me to come out here.

AJ I was playing at the Elite Lacrosse Tournament in Pennsylvania as a warm up for some of the higher profile recruiting camps. They provided us with a list of the schools that would have coaches attending and asked us to list five that interested us. I put Whittier as a joke.

What is your best lacrosse memory to this date as a poet?

AM When we made it to the NCAA semi-finals last year.

AJ Sitting outside our hotel at one in the morning in Newark, New Jersey. We had just drove seven hours from Virginia Beach after playing the fourth game of a road trip. It was the first time any of us really had a chance just sit and relax in several days and at that point we knew we were going to go to the playoffs. Some one had the foresight to bring a box of cigars and we sat outside the Holiday Inn, or whatever it was, for about a half-hour, just savoring it.

What is your worst lacrosse memory to this date a poet?

AM It is the same moment, but we lost, and I feel we did not play our best game of the year. We had a good team and I don’t feel the score reflects on how good we actually were.

AJ We played Cal. Berkley my very first game as a Poet. In the fourth quarter, when we already had a substantial lead, I tore my ACL clean through. My worst memory is sitting on the sideline at the end of that game, thinking that I'd just wasted my entire athletic career playing a meaningless game against Cal. Berkley.

What is the most frustrating thing being a West Coast team?

AM Fund raising, we have to play a majority of our games on the road, so we have to get money so we can have a season. As a team, the players do thing like sell T-shirts, besides selling the Magazines Coach Schaller mentioned earlier.

AJ There are many, many things that are frustrating about being a West Coast team. The erratic schedule, having to play all of our big games in one week, and having to start our season a month to a month and a half ahead of most teams, which makes it very difficult to peak during the playoffs. But for me the most frustrating thing is getting up at four in the morning on a Friday so we can hop on a plane, fly across the country and play a game on Saturday. All the veterans are used to it by now. But even so, every time that alarm clock goes off at 4:00 I still get pretty annoyed.

Can you see any difference in East and West Coast lacrosse and if so, what is it?

AM Not much, maybe the over all influence. The major differences I have noticed was in our Canadian lacrosse players. They grew up playing box lacrosse and are usually one-handed players, but there one is very dominate…more then most players.

AJ If you're talking about actual playing styles, no, at least not at Whittier. We have guys from all over the country and Canada. We're not really from the west coast and more importantly, neither is our coach. However, if you're talking about aesthetics, we did sport some excellent flowered game shorts for the playoffs.

How does the team look this year?

AM Good, we have lost some key players, but a lot of the players we have will step up, and we have only had a few practices at this point, but there looks like there might be some key freshman.

AJ It's hard to say. We lost four key guys and while we definitely have people who are more than capable of stepping up, the team chemistry is going to be different. The one thing I am confident about is our defense. The entire close defense is back. Last year was our first year playing together, but now we're a year more experienced. Last year we showed flashes of what we're capable of, like holding Salisbury to a 1-goal quarter, but this year I think we're going to be able to do it on a regular basis.

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Watch out...
by (#33111) on 9/30/03 @6:44PM
 To all those who dare to overlook Whittier lax this year...bad move - come on out here and see for yourself. Good luck Poets - bring us back a title.
 
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Watching...
by (#57481) on 10/02/03 @1:23PM
 The reason these kids have to travel across the country is b/c they couldn't play on the right coast, and of course there is nothing wrong with that. I give all the credit to the coach, he landed some canadiens and somehow got these second tier players to step up. Hopefully next time they will show up on the east coast when it counts, THE PLAYOFFS...
 
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west coast
by (#54957) on 9/30/03 @6:47PM
 Go West Coast!!!!
 
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NOPE
by (#58519) on 10/02/03 @1:20PM
 GO MID WEST!!!
 
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Nothing to do with Wittier
by (#48113) on 9/30/03 @7:16PM
 but I just flew out from NY to Vegas last weekend for the annual Vegas tourney and it was a kick ass time. Always fun out there and the weather was perfect as usual, actually it was a bit hot but thats ok. Got to see a couple of my good buddies who are from Cali and play on club teams like Barbary Coast, Usual Suspects and Olympic Club. Good times fellas, have fun laxin it up and enjoy the weather.
 
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Poet Laureate
by (#2700) on 10/02/03 @11:32AM
 Dave Schaller's considerable talents are quite evident. But very soon, he'll be asked to step up to the next level. And it won't be on the West Coast.
 
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true dat
by (#17466) on 10/03/03 @3:06AM
 dave schaller is the man and theres a high probablility that he is asked to move up but u also have to remember that was daves first year as a head coach he was an asst prior and i think he might wanna stick around cali he has alot of ties there such as adrenaline lacrosse and the school i have met and talked to dave a lil bit he is the nicest guy u could hope to meet so nobody bad mouth him or ure a lil cock
 
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lil cock?
by (#57481) on 10/03/03 @11:15AM
 I am sure the and the good people at Whittier are pleased to see you defend Coach Schaller. Nice use of the of the word cock, shows that you were weren't talking to the coach about possible enrolling at whittier.
But Reality is that last year wasn't his team. it was the old coaches (mr. locker's). We still have to see how good Coach Schaller is when he gets his own recruits. Whittier is in s. california and it has nice weather and the coach is the "nicest" and yada yada yada. Time will tell with david schaller, he has yet to prove anything.... ask the 'gulls.
 
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Agreed
by (#2700) on 10/04/03 @8:03PM
 The 2003 team was primarily Locker's -- the type of "coach" who liked to recruit over-age, Canadian box lacrossers to SoCal so they could masquerade as undergrads.

Clearly, nice guy Schaller has his work cut out as a recruiter. I give him 20 mos. before he moves along to a gig that's real.
 
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We have to sit back to wait and see...
by (#57798) on 10/03/03 @4:26PM
 You don’t win games by being a nice guy. Dave Schaller is a talented lacrosse player, who’s coaching carrier is only in its beginning stages, and I think we will all have to sit back and wait to see where it goes...Good luck Coach Schaller! But, as for the players...they seem like they might be on the smatter side for going to play out west. The weather and the location, I mean who wouldn’t want to go play out there. But, like Coach Schaller, the Poets are also only in the beginning stages as a top ranked team. So, yet again we might have sit back and watch the Poets also. The only problem it sounds like Whittier may have is scheduling , but if they keep traveling down the road they are on, it is enviable that teams will have to come out there and play them! I just looked at their schedule for this year and they must have left an impression on Salisbury because they are on there. Good luck Whittier!
 
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yea
by (#52247) on 10/04/03 @12:43PM
 GO SAN DIEGO!!
 
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Lets be honest
by (#10829) on 10/05/03 @2:12PM
 Whittier was no west coast team. They were an over-age box canadian team with a few nasty east coast players.

They might have had 1 or 2 good West Coast players but when it mattered they got smashed 15-8 at Salisbury who is made up of all east-coast players.

Whittier = Canada

But gives credit to there coach, he's a good guy but he's in a bad location now and now he will have to prove whether he really is the coach this article preached him to be because now he will have to build a team out of a few good east coast players and some unknown west coast players
 
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WEST COAST
by (#41882) on 10/09/03 @9:45AM
 I have no idea why everyone is getting all all over west coast players as being not as good as east coast. True we don't have the quantity of players that compete anywhere but we do have alot of players that can and do play east coast D1 lax. Anyone ever heard of Spencer Wright? OH yeah the middie who started for syracuse. Yeah hes from serra hs in san diego. This lax season look out for freshman Justin Bokmeyer at West Point. After looking at these two players, you might change your mind about West Coast.
 
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West Coast, theyre just Haters......
by (#29454) on 10/13/03 @9:38AM
 Dont pay no mind to the various knuckle-heads who write that kind of garbage about Whittier and West Coast Lacrosse. Being from CNY, I heard more than my share of BS about it...even got flack from other coaches who were recruiting me. Most players from my area in particular mainly stayed in Upstate NY or on the East Coast (im sure thats changed some, since that was over 8 years ago). Too afraid to do something different (leaving home) and to be apart of something special.

As an alum of the Poet program and the experiences I had playing there, I wouldnt change it for anything. Met tons of people, and played against (and with) some CA talent and teams that were impressive. Guys you would never hear of.... like Chris Goodroe of UCSB and Jake Zim of CAL. And Scott Kimball (WC / UCSB) was an outstanding d-man whose stick skills and athleticism were phenominal. This was a few years back, but these guys could of played anywhere.

Now the teams these guys played on are even more talented and more competiive than ever. They have extensive team budgets to play a national schedule aginst whomever will take them on (since they dont have to follow game limits like NCAA teams) and function pretty much like NCAA teams (paid coaches, recruiting, run camps, etc.) All that really started just as I was leaving WC back in '97 when the USLIA came into play and formed that national championship tourney.

Us fellow East Coasters take pride in being superior in Lax and would like to keep that stigma as long as possible....but times are changing. Like football is king in CA, TX, FL, and PA....lacrosse is booming and in due time the top talent may not be just from MD or NY.

Personally, its great to see the sport growing and seeing kids now carrying lacrosse stikcs in their neighborhoods instead of a baseball mits.....thats what its about; and thats going to make our sport flourish @ all levels.
 
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You've lost me
by (#2700) on 10/13/03 @8:45PM
 You hope to "keep that stigma as long as possible"? How exactly were you stigmatized? And why would you want to prolong it?
 
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west coast represent
by (#22919) on 10/16/03 @2:10AM
 we got the talent, just not the drive. the constant sunshine spoils us in cali and the east coasters take the sport hella more serious. if they chilled out a little more and took their sticks out of their asses it would be the same.
 
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Yeah thats what we should do.
by (#48113) on 10/19/03 @11:37PM
 we'll just stop caring so much so that you can catch up faster.
 
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lol yea obviously ur an idiot
by (#41231) on 11/20/03 @7:01PM
 lol yea maybe us East Coast lax players will take a yr vacation and the west coast will then catch up to us. LOL obviously lacrosse isn't the only thing the east coast is superior than the west coast in (east coast is also superior in education, if u couldn't figure that one out)
 
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Yo they are really good this year
by (#59625) on 10/19/03 @1:23PM
 im from the west coast and this summer i went 2 a camp where the coach of whitteir came out and so did a lotta his players... tillman johnson was also there and they were burnin him every time in the coaches game
 
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Sa Cal LAX
by (#60271) on 10/29/03 @5:09PM
 I was just up at whittier on a recruiting trip and i will say that most of their players are not from cali. The players are a mix of players from all over the US and canadia. NO w i am a native of cali(san diego) and i can tell u you that the lax talent out here is jsut as good as it is on the west coast. the difference is definitely the drive of the players. A lot of players out here could be great college lax players but they would much rather sit around and relax in the beautiful weather then play lax. There is a player on my team that could be a better lax player then me if he tried. but im the one being recruited because im not as much of a spoiled cali player. the level of whitter college lax is very high and i challenge you to find a d3 program that works as hard as they do. its an aweosme program and i ahvent seen anything close to it in any of my other recruiting trips. dont hate on west coast lax unitl you have come out here and played us.
 
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Wow
by (#60760) on 11/10/03 @4:15PM
 Wow, can't the sport just be enjoyed? Rivilery(sp?) is cool and all, but it is still a way to have fun. Wether your east coast, west coast, or from canadia, it doesnt give right to S!!t about one another.
 
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hmm ... sp?
by (#41231) on 11/20/03 @7:04PM
 Wether(sp?) ... lol
 
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