|
Chicago Shoot Out Chicago Shoot Out by southsidelaxman on October 5, 2004The Great Chicago Shoot-Out was held in Chicago on September 11 and 12. This year’s tourney, again organized by Rich DeLeo, brought in teams from Cincinnati, Kansas City, St. Louis, Nashville, Detroit, Minneapolis as well as the NYPD and NYFD teams. Local contender Lakeshore Lacrosse Club pulled out on the Friday before the tourney, setting the brackets into disarray.
The title finally went to hometown Lincoln Park Lacrosse Club, who advanced by beating Motor City 8-6, Music City 6-5 and then came from behind to overcome the Cincinnati club, 12-11. It was Lincoln Park’s first tournament title, even though they had been to the title game before. Lincoln Park started off slow and fell behind 6-2 at the end of the first quarter. They changed their defensive strategy withdrawing from attempting to strip the ball from the Cincinnati attack and resorted instead to riding hard the bodies of the attackers. This strategy and some patience helped Lincoln Park the gap to an 8-7 deficit at halftime. Lincoln Park’s goalie, Mike Julius (Ohio State) stepped up his play in the second half, getting beat only 3 times, while also stopping a number of point blank shots and fast breaks.
This tournament attracts club teams from Chicago and the Midwest, with an occasional visitor from out East. Although neither the Crease Monkeys nor Team AST showed up, both of the New York City public service teams showed up. One of those teams is the New York City Police Department “Finest” club lacrosse team and the other team was the New York Fire Department "Bravest" club lacrosse team. The tourney began on September 11 and a moment of silence was held before the Finest's first game on the main field at 1:30pm in order to commemorate the anniversary of the terror attacks of September 11, 2001.
The withdrawal from the tournament of Lakeshore lacrosse prevented a possible early round match-up between the NYPD and NYFD teams. Nevertheless, the were placed in opposing sections of the brackets so that they might meet in the title game on Sunday. That was not to be the case, as the NYFD fared better than their police counterparts in competition, winning their first two games over St. Louis and Chicago to advance to the semi-final game against Cincinnati, and then falling in a close game 8-6. They then met Music City (Nashville) and battled for third place and losing to take fourth place. This was the first appearance for the NYFD squad and there was some debate within the team as to whether they should come to the tournament or stay back home on the job at memorial services for their fallen comrades. Their entire team did not make the trip and the Bravest replaced them with a few select friends from Long Island so that the Bravest could field a solid team.
In their first game, the NYFD overwhelmed an undermanned St Louis team, who brought only 12 players to Chicago. The Bravest worked their attack area well, with Mike and Rob McKeefrey leading the scoring and luring the St. Louis goalie out of the goal circle, and then quickly passing across the crease for a number of back door scores. The NYFD next faced the Chicago Lacrosse Club and used another patient attack, capitalizing on fast breaks and relying sometimes on pure luck to beat Chicago 6-2. Chicago took many shots in the game, three of which were pipe saves. The goalie for the Bravest, Tom Sykes, was phenomenal in stopping Chicago’s shots, many of which were rebounds off an initial save. The Bravest led 4-1 at halftime and added two acrobatic goals in the second half to seal the victory. They had to play a third game on Saturday and were noticeably tired, losing to the Cincinnati Lacrosse Club in a close game 8-6. Cincinnati’s close defense was outstanding the entire tournament, forcing many teams to shoot from outside or up top. The NYFD then played Music City on Sunday for third place and could not get into their game, falling behind early and down 6-2 at halftime. A late charge by the Bravest did not overcome the 4 goal performance of Eric Clapp and the 3 goals of Nate Tutt. Even though the Bravest and Finest were in two different brackets, they did not meet in the title game, as many wanted.
The NYPD team had a tough opening loss to Music City, 7-6, running out of time after coming back from a three goal deficit to narrow the margin to one in the waning minutes of the game. They fared better later on Saturday, beating Motor City (Detroit). On Sunday they were treated to back to back games in which they beat a hometown Windy City squad 12-7 in one of the two eye-opener games early in the morning and then lost to Chicago 9-8 after falling behind early on.
The Ron Kloepfer Tournament MVP award was given to Lincoln Park’s Mike Julious for his play in the nest over the weekend. Kloepfer is a high school friend of organizer Rich DeLeo and the founder of the NYPD Finest team, who was killed in the collapse of the second tower
|  | |  |  |  | | More Shots... | |  | | Reply to this story > |  |  |
 | Southsidelaxman is a joke.... by BamBam172 (#43257) on 10/06/04 @1:14PM |  | | | I've been following this website for quite sometime now, and I am quite disgusted with southsidelaxman. Every article that he has written about lacrosse in the midwest has been derogatory. If you look at the past articles about the Chicago shootout you will notice how he belittles any midwest team. Seeing as how I am from the midwest I take great offense to that. Granted the play might not equal that of New York, but it's not that far behind. If I remember correctly Brother Rice, a high school team from the midwest, beat Landon the supposed number one high school program in the country. There are great players west of the appalachians. It's a shame that they aren't recognized just because they aren't from Maryland or New York. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| |  | Relax by sammylax (#48113) on 10/06/04 @1:56PM |  | | | With the exception of the small home page blurb, I dont see anything that belittles your lacrosse and even that is subject to opinion. I think all he's saying is that you're not going to see things like all the Powell or Vallone brothers playing somewhere in Chicago. Most of the big guns you'll see in Placid or Haiwaii wont be showing and thats mostly due to needing time for your tourney to build a reputation. Growing up all I heard about was Placid, its really built up and then its great to finally go and play there and see all the competition. Chicago is a great city that I'm sure people wouldnt mind going to visit, so give it a few years, its gonna be many probably, and let people hear about this tourney while the teams there get better and you'll start seeing more publicity along with more big name players coming out. As far as southsidelaxman, I never really pay attention to who writes the articles so I have no thoughts on his stuff. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| |  | midwest by hawkslacrosse (#51050) on 10/06/04 @5:47PM |  | | | personally i feel more the midwest lacrosse.
I mean i moved to maryland five years ago and took up the game about a year after that. Before I came i thought that only indians played it on reservations. But what i found was the greatest sport on earth. And now to see it moving to the place where im from is exciting. But players outhere who know where im from still dont take me seriously even tho im as good if not better than them. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | |  | again with the stereotypes by lx (#80426) on 10/06/04 @11:20PM |  | | | if you say your not going to see a powell like player from the midwest you are stereotyping prove that it is cruel to the people in the midwest not to be able to dream and have the chance to acheive don't deny the people of the midwest that chance | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | |  | you're missing the point by sammylax (#48113) on 10/11/04 @10:34AM |  | | | I'm not denying anyone the chance to dream. We wont see a Powell type player because you dont have anyone out west that had two older brothers that were practically bigger than the game. I doubt anyone there had a stick in their hand when they were two followed by 5 years of varsity lacrosse under a nazi coach who made you march out for each game with your knee high socks in rows of 2 like you're about to go into battle.
Why is Powell so good, becuase he is quick. Well I'm sure there are plenty of kids out west who are just as quick and maybe some that are quicker. Its not the mid-west fault that your youth programs aren't quite as intensive but someday they probably will be and then your tournaments will probably become much more exciting too.
Hell I'm from NY and even I didnt have the chance to play lax in my hometown until I hit 7th grade. When I have a son someday he'll be able to play when he's 4. Thems the breaks.
So take a deep breath and just enjoy the lacrosse while you have the chance to play it. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| |  | Re-lax, twice! by laxstooge (#71406) on 10/07/04 @8:47AM |  | | | Belittling? Doubt it! I cannot find any slams you speak of. Maybe more objective. Take a look at who won last year? AST, an East Coast team that ran out early and often over the local Lincoln Parkers. Who won the year before,in 2002, AST again with a 18-0 blanking of lovcal Lakeshores. In 2001, plaudits were heaped upon the the two local teams that played in the title game, Lincoln Parkers and Chicago. Re-lax. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | |  | chill, u crybaby! by creasekid (#83648) on 10/07/04 @8:57AM |  | | | The Shootoutb articles in the archive do not speak ill of this tourney. You got no beef. The only negative commentary you find is that some local teams (maybe you play for one) pull out and leave the organizer and the tourney in a lurch. you don't see that in Vail, Placid, Mardi Gras and Hawaii (and its coming up soon, boys!) and Ocean City. Who is the turtle looking guy No 10 in the picture for Lincoln Park? Is lax.com sending somebody to Hawaii? | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | |  | Don't mess with the turtle! by lplc10 (#83706) on 10/08/04 @4:38PM |  | | | Why are you starting with me crease baby. I am #10 and besides looking like a turtle I play light a freight train. Who are you? I am calling you out!
I am turtle boy...hear me roar! | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| |  | Bam - Get a clue - by houndbob (#83670) on 10/07/04 @9:56PM |  | | | Southside refers to Southside of Chicago - He IS a Midwestern Lax person you tool (as my 4 lax playing kids would say), and one of the most vocal and visible cheerleaders for Midwestern Lax - Trust me, I'm one of those awful NY/CT/MD/Va rooted people who didnt know people west of Buffalo had heard of lacrosse (except for the plains indians with those cool little double sticks). Week in and week out, from SSLM, we get outstansding pictures of little known (back east) tourney's, (check out the Placid pictures for something Sports Illustrated can't match) reports of Midwestern games, coverage of Midwestern college action...He's behind you guy, more than anyone else is...Can he be a sarcastic nasty SOB? sometimes, perhaps, but as another poster mentioned, if the local teams don't show,and the local sponsor is holding the bag (and paying the ref and field costs), don't blame the East Coast warriors who drive 15 hours to get there, nor the local guy with a family and a job that comes out and fairly covers your action. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | |  | agreed - yur a.... by leftyattack (#83693) on 10/08/04 @12:54AM |  | | | Bam, you hav ebeen spending too much time in the closet with the guys who sells you lax equipment out there. What ever happened to Team AST and Harry and the Crease Monkeys? Get them back to the Shootout and its popularity grow. Quit complaining. Do you disagree that Tommy Sykes was just the rage in the cage and single-handedly beat your Chicago team? Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or maybe you didn't like the huge gorilla ont he face offs that the Pd's Finest team had on the field. How many did he win, 90%? | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | |  | check urself by hawkslacrosse (#51050) on 10/09/04 @12:27PM |  | | | this summer i went to navy's alcrosse camp. I meet players from long island, MD, tenn, new jersey, va, chicago, kansas city and a ton of texas players. oh and lets not forget the san fran kids
The kc and chicago kids were legit and the texas players were physical but good
i just think u should check urself because it might be bad now but they're coming sooner or later being from long isalnd or MD isnt going to matter anymore. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | |  | (no subject) by STX_Mesh-Head (#58416) on 10/09/04 @2:54PM |  | | | sure..and by then we'll all be old and gray. i guarantee you 60%+ of those players were from the new york-new jersey or maryland area, at LEAST. sure, theres a couple good players from kentucky or chicago, but theres just more players (and more good players) from ny-nj and md.
and sooner or later? i guarantee you 10 years from now, the best lacrosse players will still be ny-nj-md based. Players are getting better over time from different areas, and playes from nj-ny-md are also growing. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | |  | Change within 5 years by cjwill27 (#83742) on 10/09/04 @9:27PM |  | | | In reference to the East Coast Vs. all other regions, of course the East Coast is going to be the most concentrated with talent. With so many choices of youth programs and youth coaches that have had spent a substantial portion of their lives playing the sport, your talent pool takes care of itself from the youth levels on up.
If you look at some of the "non-traditional hotbeds" across the country, you always have a succesful youth program that develops players with coaches who know to teach the most relevant and practical skills. Programs such as Brother Rice (Detroit), Upper Arlington (Colombus), Regis (Denver) all reflect this.
With youth programs popping up all over the country and Lacrosse' "Baby Boom" generation now coming back into their communities from College life, are bringing with them the knowledge they learned playing for high level club teams and the lower levels of the NCAA (III, II), it is only a matter of time before the present pee-wee level players from different regions are both competing at the same level.
The East Coast is always going to be the home of lacrosse, but nostalgia aside--the progression of the game is going to spread high level lacrosse westward until one day (except under title IX), it will be common place to see a Kansas V. Penn State title game at the division 1 level.
I'm from Indiana, so of course I have a bias point of view on this topic, but a claim that geography equals dominance is an outragious one, especially with the extaordinary rise in popularity lacrosse has seen since the mid to late 90's. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | |  | midwest lacrosse by dubieman21 (#58834) on 10/27/04 @9:11PM |  | | | As a member of an Illinois lacrosse team, I take personal offense to comments about east coast vs. midwest lacrosse. Okay, so we all know that the prep schools and Long Island lacrosse is where the talent is, wrong.....it is all about the programs. Lacrosse is known as an offseason conditioning sport for football in Illinois, it is the opposite out east. I have been to the premier camps in the east, and the difference between good players in Illinois and good players in Maryland or New York is minimal. The fact is that you can teach a person stick skills, but speed and agility are god given. In the midwest there are a ton of athletes (in my opinion superior to those in the east), just the year round commitment level to lacrosse isn't there. Just keep your eye out for midwest lacrosse players because I know I have something to prove, and I am working every day to get that chance to prove it. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | |  | Knights you are off base! by creasekid (#83648) on 10/29/04 @3:20PM |  | | | weren't you out of the country when last year's shootout was run? The only team you could have played on might have been AST, but they were all too fast and too smart to use you. I bet the turtle man could tool on you until you look like a rusty socket fallen off of a flacid wrench! Brother Rice of Michigan would give many of the teams from Strong Island a good battle and win, including Chaminade, Shoreham-Wading River. Take some meds for your Tourette's or else jump in the closet with the Motor City guy. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | |  | midwest lax...again by dubieman21 (#58834) on 10/29/04 @8:08PM |  | | | of course midwest lax isn't as good as the east coast, I wasn't saying that at all but our all star teams can and do compete against eachother. All I am saying is that with a little more focus on midwest programs, we can take our better athletes against your fancy stick skills and have ourselves a brawl. This is coming from a Junior in high school, I know that there are a FEW players coming out of Illinois that will be D1 players....with enough work starters. Wait 10 years and you will see buddy. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | |  | u got it easy man by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 11/01/04 @9:36PM |  | | | You a-holes out east got it easy. ppl know what lax is. a month ago i had my stick on the train with me and the condutor asked me "what type of skateboard" it was. Its kinda hard to get a lil league goin when kids dont why your carrying "a funny looking broom."
one day a friend of mine came with me to throw around cuz he had nothing better to do. well, the first time tried a shot against a chain link fence, it went through. we found to a traffic radar and clocked him at 89 mph. this is the first day he had ever touched a stick. well, long story short, he didnt want to play for his school, since it would give him less time to work on his car (which is pretty pimp, but thats not the point), the point is, that if he lived out east, where lax is a way of life, he could be the next Powell(he is also disgustingly fast). But, since he lives in Chicago, where a decked out car gets you more girls than lax, hes never gonna do anything with it.
so while you compare 'dog crap (me) and diamonds (you)' i agree. thats what it is. you guys have diamonds to attract ppl, we have warm, steaming stink nuggets. The funny thing is, like you pointed out, the dog turds beat the diamonds. must be some ugly mother fockers wearing the diamonds to lose to some guys with dog crap. | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | |  | Stop your bitching! by Etrain7 (#32657) on 11/02/04 @2:13AM |  | | | Jesus, Lacrosse is Lacrosse, can't we leave it at that. Who gives a shit where you play, as long as you play. What pisses me off are those fags who don't play the game and buy shirts at Abercrombie and walk around like they do. Can't we all just get along? | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | |  | want details? by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 11/03/04 @7:10PM |  | | | yeah, the kid i was talking about, he OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT BE THE NEXT POWELL. But since a dumb sh*t like u cant seem to figure out that I meant he is wasted potential, i guess i have to spell it out for you. as for his shot on the radar gun, it happened. and before you claim to know the physics behind how the road-side gun works, as well as the minimum dimensions of the object which it displays the velocity of, you might want to try it...or look around online. Ive seen a couple pictures of kids taking shots and the radar displaying '99 mph' online. since u still probably dont beleive me about his shot, ill explin why he can shoot so fast...he been playing varsity hockey since 8th grade.
As for the year round thing...u think i dont play year round? and how 'physical' NE lacrosse is? Im 6'3" 1/2 and weigh 235...im starting attack. thats not to say i cant play d or middie or goalie, but im best at attack.
Ive only been playing for two years now, and like I said, you NE guys got it easy. Im competing for a DIII scholoarship against kids who have been playing their whole life.
one more thing...next time you come out to chicago give me a yell...call me a fag to my face and find out what happens | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | fine by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 11/04/04 @11:10PM |  | | | first off, laxatives55@sbcglobal.net thats my e-mail adress. rather than wasting space on the web page, email me with whatever u wanna lie about. as i said, i did shot on the radar, he shot on the radar, and both times it gave a reading. as for d3 scholarships...click on the little button taht says "3" next to "mens." Then go to any d3 school website listed and look at the form for interested student-athletes...thats funny..."ARE YOU INTERESTED IN APLLYING FOR FINACIAL AID?" Do u think they are asking if u think you desever finacial aid for knitting? Ever hear the NCSA? Probably not. it stands for National Collegiate Scouting Association. I find it odd that an organization like that would say that there are d3 scholarships availible, and that you say there arent...hhhmmmmmmmmmm...who do i believe.....some wannabe middle-aged loser who thinks he tough sh!t calling out high school kids, or a profeesional organazation taht specializes in shcolarships...thats a hard one.
anyways, im gonna get on with this, if u seriously wanna get rocked by a 16 year old, e-mail me. however, i have no problem with u except that u called me a fag and a lair...ive gotten in fights over less, but i dont really feel like setting a time and date | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | knightslax is right by BamBam172 (#43257) on 11/05/04 @2:52AM |  | | | As arrogant and obnoxious as knightslax is, he's right about d3. I know for a fact that d3 does not offer scholarships, because 1) I researchedit and 2) I got scouted by a lot of d3 schools. So there you go | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | u talk alot by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 11/08/04 @7:02PM |  | | | aight, fine...im not even gonna go into d3 scholarships now
u got proof??what is it?? u saying u have a friend(i doubt that too)??whats his name, and where does he work? if u dont beleive me, why dont u call the police department whose equipment i used to clock the shots...847-318-6106...so im giving u a number to call, to an offical government office. what have u told me to contact your source, since it is very possible that ur imaginary friend works for a company that does things different...notice how i dont resort to childish name calling, rather i just give u facts...so go ahead and call me what u want, and not back it up with anything... its kinda pathetic that the teenager is the one who isnt just talking smack | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | fine by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 11/10/04 @10:26PM |  | | | k, ur absolutly right, there r no d3 scholarships....i am wrong about that, i dont really care what u think anymore about the radar, i know what i did, and thats it
last thing...ur the one that aint willing to back it up, so whatever, go ahead and say whatever u want and talk about stopping by and kicking my ass, then say u dont wanna waste gas money | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | youre a fag by navlax33 (#18447) on 12/02/04 @6:42PM |  | | | dude just listening to you makes me want to slap the shit out of you. How about you come down to VA and join one of our winter leagues so I can crush you on the field!!! and if you get up and start crying I will drop the gloves with you anytime you want..P@#$y | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
| |  | 4 knightfag by LAXatives55 (#46873) on 12/04/04 @2:39PM |  | | | u talk about all these great high school programs in the NE...yeah, the could most likely beat the hell outta my team...did u play 4 any of them? u say navlax talks a lot of talk, look at u "im passing by chitown in two weeks name the place..." when i give u my email cuz i dont to contact me about it your next post includes "i dont wanna waste gas money" yeah, im not as good as a lot of New Yorkers, yeah New york has more all stars then the midewest, but that doesnt mean that ur right about everything, u would get ur ass handed to u by a lot of teams out here, as well as a lot of teams out here would get rocked by NY teams. So i guess my point is that ur a fag, you do nothing but talk sh*t a lot and back outta fights...sounds kinda prep school to me
by the way, bout the DIII scholarship thing...i was wrong...it was the DII and DI schools looking at me that mentioned scholarships | | |  |  | Reply to this |
|
|
|  | | © Lax.com 2000-2010 |  |
|