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D1 Playoff Bracket
by neil on May 4, 2008
Division I
Duke
Loyola
Cornell
Ohio State
Hopkins
Hofstra
North Carolina
Navy
Syracuse
Canisius
Notre Dame
Colgate
Maryland
Denver
UVA
UMBC
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| bracket
by zanderaruba (#109818) on 5/04/08 @10:01PM | | | | http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3381457 | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | Shocking by Formerlaxdemon 5/05/08 @11:26AM |
| Carolina is #4????
by shocks (#1383) on 5/04/08 @10:36PM | | | | They're 0-3 in the ACC. Really, the selection committee needs to end their fetish with "strength of schedule", and the circle jerk that is ACC play. When your AD's work in December is just as important as your work on the field in April then there's a problem.
And really, Denver? Did Georgetown have an appointment they couldn't break or something? | | | | | Reply to this |
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| wow
by OH-IOlax (#196296) on 5/04/08 @10:45PM | | | | G town got royaly screwed, denver over Gtown that's outrageous G town plays a much tougher schedule and mind you has the only win over duke this season, not to take anything away from the GWLL but the ECAC is the murder's row of lax, every team in there is fairly good, nothing against denver but I hope maryland throttles them to prove my point that the better team should of gotten in | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Rankings
by Cackalacky (#197657) on 5/04/08 @10:50PM | | | | Wow, these are some seriously messed up rankings. First G-Town gets left out, then UMBC and Loyola get hosed having to play the #1 and #2 seeds while the MAAC champion Canisius "only" draws the #3 seed. I guess I didn't realize that the MAAC was tougher than both the America east and the ECAC.
Despite those I think that Colgate absolutely got it put it sideways. They win 7 in a row including at least 3 top 25 wins, the most remarkable being this weeks win over then #2 Syracuse. For them not to get a seed I think is pretty ridiculous. They should have at least been playing in that 8-9 game.
Overall another debacle of a bracket with traditional powerhouses given more credit than their wins show they deserve. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Georgetown...
by cuselax15 (#184318) on 5/04/08 @10:50PM | | | | not in the tournament? That is the biggest pile of sh*% I have ever heard of. They beat the consensus #1 team and they don't get in. That is terrible. I don't even like G-town and that is complete bs. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| ???
by wshslax13 (#140937) on 5/04/08 @11:04PM | | | | i agree with all of these comments... esp. g-town
a win over duke and a 2ot loss to cuse... how do denver and ohio state make it when there are much better teams like g-town and army. even drexal should of made it before them. this whole first round teams cant travel more then 300 miles needs to be dropped and the ncaa needs to just let the best 16 teams play. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Predictions?
by Naptown Fan (#136419) on 5/04/08 @11:12PM | | | | Here is the First Round and my predictions:
Loyola at Duke-Both these teams played earlier, and Duke won handily. And, since Duke is a much better team than Loyola and is so hungry, I say that they win handily again.
Ohio State at Cornell-Ohio State has had a good season and has pulled an upset or two. Cornell has surprised some people since this was supposed to be a rebuilding year. Since Cornell is more experienced in the tournament and is hungry to go far again this year, I say that Cornell wins.
Hofstra at Hopkins-Hofstra, coached by former Hopkins top assistant Seth Tierney, upset the Blue Jays in OT earlier this season. But Hopkins is much better than they were then, is much more experienced in the tournament, and will want revenge. Hopkins will get that revenge.
Navy at North Carolina-These two teams met in the First Round last year, too, and North Carolina was able to take care of business after Navy handled them in the regular season. Navy has a young team, and they have lost three games in-a-row. North Carolina is the better team and has played a tougher schedule. I want Navy, but I am calling North Carolina in what could be a very good game.
Canisius at Syracuse-Canisius is a much-improved team and has pulled a couple of upsets this season. However Syracuse is a much-improved team, too, and is hungry to get back to the Final Four after not going for the second time in three years last season after making 22 straight Final Fours. In addition, Syracuse will be hungry to get back on track after being upset by Colgate in their final game of the regular season. Syracuse will win, and this one could get ugly.
Colgate at Notre Dame-Both of these teams have surprised people this season. Colgate won the Patriot League Tournament and upset Syracuse in their final regular season game. Notre Dame lost their star player Yeatman, but they came together as a team and had a fine season. Since Notre Dame is more experienced in the tournament, since they have a more talented time, and since they are playing so tough as a team, look for Notre Dame to take care of business.
Denver at Maryland-Denver has surprised people this season and is the surprise team in this year's tournament. Maryland has a good young team, too, and they upset a powerful Virginia team earlier in the season. Since Maryland is the better team, since they have played a much tougher schedule, and since they are at home, look for the Terps to get the victory.
UMBC at UVA-UVA is loaded as usual, and they have had a fine season. UMBC, on the other hand, is more of a surprise. After making the Quarterfinals last season, they lost many great players. However, Coach Don Zimmerman, who won three national titles at Maryland, performed one of the best coaching jobs ever this season. His team upset Maryland, threw a huge scare into Hopkins, and has a huge winning streak right now. Because of this, Zimmerman should have the National Coach of the Year Award locked up. On paper, UVA is a much better team than UMBC. But UMBC is on a roll and has Zimmerman, one of the best motivators and Xs & Os coaches ever. As a result, don't be surprised if they give UVA a fight. However, since UVA is loaded and most likely won't look past UMBC after what happened against Delaware in the First Round last season, UVA will prevail.
Agree? Disagree?
Predictions?
And, by the way, Georgetown DID INDEED get shafted! | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | | reed by killermystery 5/06/08 @8:40AM |
| GWLL
by wc15ill (#182747) on 5/04/08 @11:12PM | | | | How does GWLL get three teams in the tournament?
G-Town gets left out, and UMBC gets UVA in the first round. Denver does not belong in the tournament and Ohio State does not deserve the 9th seed. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| The reason Georgetown was left out is...
by whr27 (#28787) on 5/05/08 @12:16AM | | | | I agree with everyone's comments about GT being left out, especially with wins over Duke and Navy. But unfortunately, having a strong record and high ranking doesn't mean you get into the NCAA Tournament. There is criteria set forth which the Selection Committee has to abide by when choosing teams. The 3 factors are Ratings Percentage Index, Strength of Schedule, and Quality Wins (which are based on the RPI Rankings and SOS). GT ranked 18th in RPI, 27th in SOS, and 18th in QW's, for an overall ranking of 20th. Thus they were left out and Navy gets in with an overall ranking of 14, Denver is in with a ranking of 12, and Ohio State had a ranking of 8. Duke had the highest RPI and QW's, but UNC had the #1 Strength of Schedule, followed by UVA and Hopkins. UNC beat Notre Dame, which is why UNC is the #4 seed. If you don't believe me, look at the rankings here:
http://www.laxpower.com/update08/binmen/rpit01.php
If you want to read the criteria, go here:
http://www.laxpower.com/update08/binmen/ncaa_d1.php
Trust me, my heart goes out to the kids at GT and Drexel because they both had great seasons. I think having the USILA rankings are nice, but I wish we could follow the rankings of the teams that the Selection Committee will use throughout the year. If we knew GT was ranked 20th because of their poor RPI, SOS, and QW's, this would not be the surprise we see it as. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Selection Process
by LaxMaverick22 (#197669) on 5/05/08 @12:28AM | | | | I think it's safe to say that we all agree that G'Town got hosed by not being selected. I mean come on--how does Denver get in over G'Town. Nothing against the GWLL but the ECAC is a much tougher conference and with a win over Duke, handing them there only loss of the season, they're obviously a legit team. Even Drexel, Princeton, Army, Bucknell and Brown all deserve to get in over Denver. I know I'm pretty much repeating what everyone else is saying but I'm astounded by this move and I think it's completely ridiculous that something like this happens. | | | | | Reply to this |
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by RWHawks (#143077) on 5/05/08 @1:33AM | | | | Once again the Bracket is a big screw up
They should consider a play-in round between teh Great Western and the MAAC. (i gaurantee there wouldnt be very many MAAC teams in the first round after that)
Denver has no valid reason to be there, their best wins are against Brown and Notre Dame
Army should have been in over Navy
Also, Johns Hopkins is the only team i know that can post an 8-5 record, get demolished by some of their quality opponents, and still get a #5 spot.
I think the NCAA needs to bend over, take their strength of schedule, and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Also, too bad for Cornell, is it just me or do they get screwed every year by matching up with Duke before the Semis. Although it always does turn out to be a good game. And even though i am a Cornell fan, ill agree that if a team is gonna be national champs they should beat the best teams on the way, lets see if they can turn a fairly mediocre season into an upset. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| i mean come on
by killermystery (#117375) on 5/05/08 @8:21AM | | | | where is brown they so deserve to be in this. and wtf is that Canisius team never even heard of them, they will get trashed. now deleware,princeton,drexel and g-town got shafted probably cause everyone think they will get blown away. can someone tell how ohio state,hofstra, navy and loyala got in this they where sucking like crazy last time i checked now they are in the tourney. if something like this happened in ncaa baskette ball people would be furious. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | Navy by FE21 5/05/08 @9:22AM |
| Georgetown??
by Coastie (#45814) on 5/05/08 @12:34PM | | | | It's getting real old hearing all the whiners about Georgetown. They should have won their AQ - but failed. They fall early every year in the tournament, so why the love affair?
Things are changing in lacrosse - parity is approaching...too many good players to fill the benches at the traditional leaders of the game.
Take the top 3 from ECAC and GWLL - compare winning percentage and schedule - GWLL comes out on top...but the East Coasters don't like losing their grip. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | nooope by francorocks 5/07/08 @11:40PM |
| Tickets
by laxkiller23 (#141916) on 5/05/08 @12:48PM | | | | Can any one answer my question. The second round games in navy, do i have to get tickets before hand or can i buy them at the stadium? | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Denver???
by Goal Time (#142666) on 5/05/08 @2:44PM | | | | That's just plain wrong. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| (no subject)
by nicomhale (#167023) on 5/05/08 @9:44PM | | | | this is the stupidest thing ive ever seen. the people who made this are on crack. how can you honestly have denver or cansius and not have G town...doesnt make any sense...at all | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | gtown by Coastie 5/07/08 @10:07AM |
| Georgetown beating Duke
by Bulzac (#139861) on 5/05/08 @11:21PM | | | | Everyone has been saying how Georgetown beat Duke and how that should've pretty much guaranteed them tourney entry with a solid 9-4 record. I don't disagree, but the selection committee clusters wins, from 1-5, 5-10, and so on for the top 20. So even though the Hoyas were the only ones this season to beat the Blue Devils, the win is only equal to a win over someone like Maryland, and I think maybe even Notre Dame may have finished in RPI top five. So Denver technically has as many 1-5 wins as Georgetown if that is correct.
Personally I like the Pioneers. I think they will be fun to watch on TV and hopefully they can challenge Maryland. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| The BCS of lacrosse.
by francorocks (#129810) on 5/06/08 @12:10PM | | | | the NCAA selection guidlines are obviously flawed. How georgetown can get left out, and cornell last year can get a 4 seed after going undefeated and beating duke, it is ridiculous. even iff the comitee are just following the guidlines, after last year the guidlines should have been changed. if beating duke counts just as much as beating unc, then the logic for the guidelines is obviously flawed. the committee is relying to much rankings of strength of schedule and RPI not which team is better and which team has the better record. I think if the NCAA doesnt fix the system quickly then we could soon have the BCS of lacrosse. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| G town +Drexel
by wildcatdt92 (#156889) on 5/06/08 @6:27PM | | | | G town and Drexel got screwed, Ohio State and Denver are weak selections. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | Gtown by Coastie 5/07/08 @10:05AM |
| | weak? by osukooz 5/12/08 @5:13PM |
| Losses
by Gooey26 (#130269) on 5/06/08 @6:47PM | | | | To me it seems as if they didn't look at the teams record or wins, but at their loses. It seems like it doesn't matter how you play but who you play. A couple average wins and 5 loses to top ranked teams and your in because you had a "tough schedule". I swear its better to lose if your a lower ranked team than to win against a number one - six. Because if you lose then their rankings go up and your schedule looks harder, which is apparently all that matters. You win and it makes your schedule seem easier, therefore you're out. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| MAAC Champs
by MAACfan (#197682) on 5/07/08 @3:06PM | | | | Canisius won the MAAC and recieved and AQ. When you look at their schedule they lost to Colgate in overtime 12-11. Colgate just beat Syracuse last week 12-11. I'm predicting that the Canisius/ Syracuse game is going to be alot closer than expected.
Prediction
Canisius 12-Syracuse 11
GO GRIFFS !!!!! | | | | | Reply to this |
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| MAAC Champs
by MAACfan (#197682) on 5/07/08 @3:06PM | | | | Canisius won the MAAC an recieved and AQ. When you look at their schedule they lost to Colgate in overtime 12-11. Colgate just beat Syracuse last week 12-11. I'm predicting that the Canisius/ Syracuse game is going to be alot closer than expected.
Prediction
Canisius 12-Syracuse 11
GO GRIFFS !!!!! | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | ??? by esq.lax 5/10/08 @1:03AM |
| Denver Could Be A Tough Out
by Naptown Fan (#136419) on 5/08/08 @12:19AM | | | | Not only are they a good team and hungry for respect, but they will be playing Maryland and Dave Cottle. When it comes to being the definite favorite in big games, Cottle has had serious trouble throughout the year. As the underdog, he has done some great things. So, if Maryland can get by Denver, they could go on to surprise a lot of people in this tournament. This might well be the only time they are the favorite. If everything goes the way it should, Maryland would play UVA in the Quarterfinals, Syracuse in the Final Four, and Hopkins or Duke for the title. That is, if they got that far. But, due to Cottle's troubles in big games as the favorite, believe it or not, Denver could be as tough a test for Maryland as anyone. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| Prediction About The Crowd At Navy
by Naptown Fan (#136419) on 5/09/08 @2:45PM | | | | I predict that, if it ends up being Navy vs. Hopkins and Maryland vs. Virginia, a Quarterfinals attendance record will be set, and it very possibly could be the biggest crowd ever to see lacrosse games outside of the Final Four. That is, if the weather is decent. Think about it:
1. All four teams have huge followings in the Baltimore, Washington, and Annapolis areas.
2. Both games would feature big rivals facing off against each other and teams that have already met this season. And, let's not forget that Navy would be trying to beat Hopkins for the first time in almost 35 years.
3. Annapolis is convenient from both Baltimore and D.C.
4. Navy Stadium is the best place to watch a lacrosse game.
5. Annapolis is the best town to hang out in after a game.
Now, records could be set even if it is not those four teams that play next Saturday. But, I say that, if it is those four teams, the crowd will be, hands-down, the biggest. Agree? | | | | | Reply to this |
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| predictions
by sketchtastic (#165751) on 5/09/08 @8:56PM | | | | Duke vs. Loyola: closer than last time, but Duke still wins by a bunch.
Cornell vs. Ohio State: Close game, but Cornell comes out on top.
Hopkins vs. Hofstra: Hopkins will be pissed off, and they will get revenge.
North Carolina vs. Navy: UNC wins in similar fashion as last year.
Syracuse vs. Canisius: This is a joke. Orange roll.
Notre Dame vs. Colgate: Loss to Denver makes ND look kinda sketchy. Raiders get the upset.
Maryland vs. Denver: Denver has no business being here. Terps get the win.
UVa vs. UMBC: Both teams got kinda screwed with this matchup. Should be a good game. Upset would not be suprising, but UVa has more firepower and will get the win. | | | | | Reply to this |
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| | | | Correct by Goal Time 5/10/08 @12:09PM |
| osu haters
by tedlax5 (#198198) on 5/10/08 @6:17PM | | | | i hope all of you ohio state haters see this 11-2 halftime score. As a Buckeye fan i will rightfully apologize for us being a contender every year, in every sport. Sorry we are better. | | | | | Reply to this |
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