Ouch

Ouch

Ouch

Ouch

The game between Salisbury State and Mary Washington was postponed twice due to weather and field conditions before they finally met up yesterday on February 26th. Mary Washington probably would have been fine with a complete cancellation after suffering a crushing 19-2 loss. The first Men's D3 game of the season was played in early season slop, and was mired by some even sloppier play from both squads, despite the lopsided score.

Mary Washington tried to keep the scoring to a minimum by playing a packed six man zone in order to keep the Gulls from penetrating. Although the Gulls got 19 goals, it came off of 65 shots, which is not bad percentage wise. Coach of the Salisbury team, Jim Berkman, cited the poor shooting as one of his major concerns. There will not be that many games in the future where they can get that kind of multitude of shots. Another defensive scheme Mary Washington used was to double team the Gulls strongest midfielder, Chris Turner. This proved successful as Turner was held to a goal and two assists, although he did get off 13 shots -- but the Salisbury team has plenty of other weapons.

Figuring in the scoring as well was fellow middie Tim Parks with three goals. Attackman Joe High did the most damage with 5 goals and an assist, while Craig Rodie scored twice and helped on two as well.

Defensively, Mark Breier and Hirbod Azmi had strong games for Salisbury and Pat Twewes stopped the ball five out of seven times when tested in cage. Also noteworthy was an undisciplined 12 penalties for the Salisbury Gulls. Summing up: Salisbury crushes yet another opponent, but they have work to do which is to be expected this early in the season. Mary Washington and just about every other team in division III wishes they had Salisbury's kind of problems.

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Salisbury
    by (#47) on 2/23/00 @11:33PM
Get ready D-III, Salisbury is breaking out the whipping stick
 
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Um...
    by (#507) on 2/24/00 @9:34AM
Mary Washington? They beat up some old woman! Let's have some real competition before we start kissing Salibury's ass.
 
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Dont be angry
    by (#143) on 2/24/00 @9:48AM
Leroy,
You sound so bitter, lets see how they do today against Catholic.
 
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SAILSBURY STEAK
    by (#512) on 2/24/00 @12:09PM
give me a break. let's not give sailsbury too much credit. they are surrounded by such talented teams yet choose not to challenge themselves. oh boy, catholic and mary washington. and 19 goals on 65 shots, doesn't that say something about their shooting as well as how poor their opponents were. don't give the crown to them yet, they have a lot of prvoing still to do.
 
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come on
    by (#294) on 2/25/00 @9:39PM
First, learn how to spell. Second, every year teams drop the Sea Gulls because they are scared.
 
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BILLY is the smartest man in the world.
    by (#143) on 2/25/00 @10:40PM
Once again I agree with Billy. For those of you that can't read, Salisbury, once again has the hardest ranked schedule in all of D3. And everyone has to play every team in their conference, Salisbury just plays them first.

P.S. I bet youll all be bitter when they start beating ranked teams to. Saying things like ----- lost a lot of people to graduation this year.
And yes, a lot is two words.
 
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The league is the real reason for all of this!!!!
    by (#150) on 2/26/00 @2:08AM
Fellas;

Salisbury has to play these early season over-glorified scrimmages for one simple reason...because of the Automatic Qualifier system they had to join a conference with an Automatic Bid. The Conference they joined happens to include such lacrosse forces as Mary Washington and Catholic.
It was smart for Salisbury to join the Conference because if and when they do have an "off" year, they can still make the tourney if they aren't ranked high as long as they win their conference. By 2001 only four at-large bids will be given out in D3 lacrosse which means that it will be tough to gain one. Salisbury joined a conference they will surely win on an annual basis to cover their rear-ends, which was the smart thing to do.
Give them some credit, they scheduled the easier games early to get them out of the way even though one miraculous upset will ruin their chances at an Automatic Bid and drop them to #9 or #10 in the rankings. Had Catholic stunned Salisbury it would possibly have killed the Sea Gulls' season. I'd always schedule league games (regardless of how strong the opponent is) after a couple of scrimmages and games to get the kinks out. They didn't.
It sucks they have to play in such a Conference, in fact I think the AQ system sucks in general!!!!! A number of non-deserving teams will get bids and a bunch of ranked teams will be left out. If they want AQ's in D3, they should expand the field to 24 teams or something to make sure all of the deserving teams get in along with the conference champs. Under this system, we'll probably see a top-10 miss out on the tourney every year!!!!!
Also, the reality is that by 2010, Salisbury will be the modern-day Hobart in D3. So it doesn't matter who they face. I'd love to see Salisbury play Hopkins like Hobart used to play Syracuse but because of the criteria for post-season play that will never happen. But in any case, it doesn't matter who they play early on, there are only two or three teams that can run with them anyway. Everybody else is going to get crushed.
 
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Joined the league b/c of AQ ???? WHAT
    by (#143) on 2/26/00 @6:09PM
MSPINNER,

It is good to see you defend Salisbury but they have been in their conference for as long as I can remember. The lacrosse team joined the CAC about 7 or 8 years ago. Not recently to get an easy automatic bid.
 
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Sorry for the error
    by (#150) on 2/27/00 @1:31PM
Joehead,

I guess I am in error then. I assume Salisbury joined the conference because the school as a whole is in it...but nevertheless, Salisbury couldn't leave the CAC unless they joined another conference. The point I was trying to make is that I am not a fan of the AQ system if the field isn't large enough to encompass enough teams to make sure that the top-ranked teams make it.
For example, the Conference Ithaca is in (it used to be called the Super Six, I'm not sure what it is now). The entire conference pretty much is ranked and they used to all get in the tournament. Now, under the AQ system, the champ gets the bid and under the system there are only four at-large bids nationally, so a couple of big teams from that Conference alone won't make it. While this is happening, conferences such as the Pilgrim League and the PAC (which have no ranked teams) each get a bid.
Is that fair?
Even if Salisbury wanted to leave for a more competitive league, why would they? Their cheezy conference has the AQ. Or, Salisbury would probably be better off playing as an independant, but to do so would be suicide if they happen to have an off year. Of course these are not options if the entire school is in the one conference.
The AQ system also means that the big teams don't have to play each other during the regular season (although I admit they still do). Why play all ranked teams and risk losing when all you have to do is win a weak conference schedule and get to the tourney. Luckily the coaches have integrity to play the tough teams so that hasn't happened...yet.
I'm sorry again for the error.
 
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You are looking at the AQ the wrong way.
    by (#682) on 2/28/00 @7:31PM
Yes it is true that with the AQ some good teams will be left out of the tourney and other teams that aren't ranked as high will make it to the big dance. This is not a bad thing for two reasons:
1. In the long run it will only make the game better and more competitive. Coaches from the smaller conferences that normally don't have ranked teams will have an easier time bringing in better recruits if their school has a chance to play in the NCAA tourney. Before, only certain teams and conferences had teams make it, so this will raise the bar for all of lacrosse. Sure it might take ten years, but that will be worth it if we have fourty teams capable of winning the national championship instead of ten like we do now.
2. Just because teams aren't ranked does not mean they are not just as good as the perennial top teams. An example, I had a chance to see New England College play a game last year, they went 14-1 and play in the CCC, a low-rate lacrosse conference. They were not even considered for the NCAA or the ECAC's. But the truth of the matter was, they were just as good as any of the powerhouses in New England, and one of them, Middlebury, made the championship game. Nobody knew who New England College was so they did not have a chance to play any big schools. (This year the CCC has an automatic bid).
So what I am saying is that maybe some of these unknown, unranked teams may surprise you and win a game or two once they make the tourney.
I am positive that after I saw NEC last year that they could have played with anyone.
The AQ will better the game in the long run, trust me.
D-III
 
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confused?
    by (#1794) on 4/02/00 @6:54PM
You all sound confused? Salisbury joined the CAC conference in 95 because we had to. The conference you play in is the decision of the school not the team. You don't see ACC teams picking and choosing what conference each team wants to play in. Not only was salisbury required to play these teams each year, but now we must play them twice because of a conference tournament. That sucks.
 
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isnt mary washington an all womens college? (nt)
    by (#512) on 2/24/00 @9:12PM
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You are looking at the AQ the wrong way.
    by (#682) on 2/28/00 @7:33PM
Yes it is true that with the AQ some good teams will be left out of the tourney and other teams that aren't ranked as high will make it to the big dance. This is not a bad thing for two reasons:
1. In the long run it will only make the game better and more competitive. Coaches from the smaller conferences that normally don't have ranked teams will have an easier time bringing in better recruits if their school has a chance to play in the NCAA tourney. Before, only certain teams and conferences had teams make it, so this will raise the bar for all of lacrosse. Sure it might take ten years, but that will be worth it if we have fourty teams capable of winning the national championship instead of ten like we do now.
2. Just because teams aren't ranked does not mean they are not just as good as the perennial top teams. An example, I had a chance to see New England College play a game last year, they went 14-1 and play in the CCC, a low-rate lacrosse conference. They were not even considered for the NCAA or the ECAC's. But the truth of the matter was, they were just as good as any of the powerhouses in New England, and one of them, Middlebury, made the championship game. Nobody knew who New England College was so they did not have a chance to play any big schools. (This year the CCC has an automatic bid).
So what I am saying is that maybe some of these unknown, unranked teams may surprise you and win a game or two once they make the tourney.
I am positive that after I saw NEC last year that they could have played with anyone.
The AQ will better the game in the long run, trust me.
D-III
 
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True
    by (#394) on 2/29/00 @12:30PM
A recent D-I example is Bucknell. As the only undefeated team in all of D-I they would have gotten a bid for winning conference... I hope.
 
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