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NCAA 2010 Head Spec Update

NCAA 2010 Head Spec Update
by Zach Babo on September 26, 2008

The National College Athletics Association’s announcement of new stick specifications to be implemented in 2010 caused much debate within the lacrosse world. Since the Men’s Lacrosse Rules Committee made its decision in February, many questions and concerns have emerged regarding the equipment modification.

Beginning January 1, 2010, all lacrosse stick heads used in NCAA play must meet a new set of dimensions, according to an NCAA press release referring to the rule change. Measuring from the throat up, at the 1.25-inch, and 3-inch marks the stick must be 3 inches wide. At the 5-inch mark, the stick must be 3.5-4 inches wide on that front and 3.5 inches wide on the back. At the head’s widest point, it must be 6-6.5 inches on the front, and 6 inches on the back. All of these measurements are minimum dimensions, so heads may exceed theses specifications and be wider, but they may not be more narrow.

The change was made to promote the free dislodgement of the ball, said Ty Halpin, the NCAA’s associate director of rules administration. The hope is to even the playing field between offensive and defensive players some.

“It’s much harder than it used to be to get the ball out,” Halpin said. “We don’t want it to be because of the equipment…It certainly makes sense that if you widen the opening of the crosse the ball will come out more easily…The other key piece is balancing offense and defense in the game.”

The NCAA hopes to also promote safety with the new rule, Halpin said. If it is easier for a defender to dislodge the ball, then he wont have to be as forceful while checking the attacking player, decreasing relentless slashing in pursuit of the ball or just from frustration.

Warrior Sports announced in September a lawsuit against the NCAA, challenging many of the NCAA Rules Committee’s claims and hoping to prevent the new specifications from going into effect in 2010.

Warrior contends that the NCAA produced little data supporting the theory that a wider head would promote freer dislodgement of the ball, said Tom Burns, a Warrior product manager. The company was also alarmed that this was the third rule change since 2007 involving sticks. Retooling and redesigning for the production of new heads to meet these specifications will be an expensive and time consuming process that Warrior feels is an unfair burden.

“The majority of heads that we’ve studied in the market do not comply to 2010 standards,” Burns said. “This rule impacts everyone in the industry.”

With so much uncertainty surrounding the new specs, consumers have been left in a quandary over the legality of current equipment, Burns said.

“One of the big things with this 2010 rule is just the amount of confusion out there,” Burns said.

That uncertainty begins to clear as more leagues and governing bodies vote on the adoption of these rules. While the NCAA’s ruling will affect all varsity collegiate programs, the trickle down to the high school level might not be that dramatic.

“The revised stick specifications adopted by the NCAA do not apply to the high school level as the [National Federation of State High School Associations] has adopted no changes in stick specifications,” said Kent Summers, the assistant director of NFHS. “Thus, lacrosse played using NFHS lacrosse rules will be unaffected by the NCAA rule change…We have discussed it the past two years, and they did not favor the revision on either occasion.”

According to a survey conducted by NFHS of state associations from 2006-2007, 71,524 boys played high school lacrosse at 1,588 schools in 22 states that participate with NFHS. According to US Lacrosse’s numbers from 2007, nearly 120,000 boys play high school lacrosse. While they may not all be recognized or accounted for by the NFHS, most play under NFHS rule, so most players will not be affected by the change.

Some leagues that do not participate with NFHS rules follow NCAA rules instead, such as the highly touted Maryland Interscholastic Athletics Association. The MIAA has made no official decision yet, but they will likely stay on par with NCAA rules, said Bob Shriver, head coach of The Boys’ Latin School in Maryland.

“We will likely adopt the new rules,” Shriver said. “Our league, the MIAA, typically will adjust some of the NCAA rules to meet our particular concerns…We may not adopt a rule like that because of money implications. So, if the new stick rule is out, we may allow our kids a year or two to make the change so the financial impact isn’t so severe.”

If a league or association will adopt the rule, most will not make a concrete decision until meetings either following the 2008 season or preceding the 2009 season. But, if the NFHS maintains its decision not to adopt the new specifications, which it seems inclined to do, most high school boys will be able to continue using the same equipment through 2010.

Manufacturers are faced with a challenge and some tough decisions now when approaching the concerns of producing heads for 2010 NCAA play. Roughly 8,700 men play lacrosse in the NCAA at the DI, DII, or DIII level, according to statistics compiled through the lax.com database. Almost 2,400 of those players at the DI level, where many programs are sponsored and receive equipment for free or for a markedly reduced price. That leaves a very small market for manufacturers to pursue with 2010 NCAA sticks.

Weighing that against the much larger market of youth and high school players who can continue to use equipment manufacturers are currently producing, some companies may decide it is better to not make heads for 2010 NCAA play and focus on other markets.

“We don’t anticipate that happening,” Halpin said, “and in conversations with manufacturers, many have asked if a stick that meets 2010 specs would be allowed for use in play. That makes us think that some are planning to release 2010 sticks early.”

Despite Warriors objections to the new ruling, if it does remain in place, they intend on creating something to meet the new specifications, Burns said.

“Warrior will make sticks available to both sets of standards,” Burns said. How expansive of a line they explore for 2010 NCAA play will be a decision many manufacturers will need to make in the coming months.

States that have lacrosse programs recognized (and thus governed by) NFHS are: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Misouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia.

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Thanks (nt)
by (#191592) on 9/26/08 @5:36PM
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   Thanks! by 10/01/08 @9:44PM
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by (#154678) on 9/26/08 @9:10PM
 personally i do not think that the head dimensions are the problem with the defensemen getting the ball from attacking sticks, i play defense in college and while there are some players i have troubles getting the ball from i do usually get it from them after a while but for the most part it is just because that player is good, the better the player the harder it is to get the ball from him, but it doesnt mean that they have to change the dimensions, the defense just needs to figure out a way, lacrosse is an offensive battle with high scores, not a defensive battle with low scores
 
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by (#200101) on 9/27/08 @5:17PM
 i think that the ncaa is full of it. i play in high school level and it's easy to get the ball from a lot of the older or bigger guys out there, its not a matter of the head being too pinched or too small. all you really need to do is know how to work the other players stick to get the ball out of it. all it is is stick skills and how well you can get the ball the measurements really dont affect it all that much
 
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We do need some change
by (#188060) on 9/27/08 @6:03PM
 Some changes need to take place for the lacrosse head
(1) Kids are not learning the game. Things like cradling are lost on the new players. With these new heads you don't need to cradle.
(2) Lets go back to the finals. . .when Paul Rabil ran through 4-5 Cuse guys, feel down, and came up with the ball. Rabil is a good player, but that play was 40% skill and 60% a pinched head with a deep pocket. You are seeing that too much in NCAA lacrosse. Offensive players running through 2-3 players and still having the ball
(3) I say we just go back to Hi-walls, Sams, and SuperLites – there are so many heads and are they all really that different?
 
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   (no subject) by 9/28/08 @12:02AM
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            Wow. by 10/01/08 @6:22PM
               (no subject) by 10/02/08 @9:27PM
            well... by 11/24/08 @9:05PM
            Agreed by 12/06/08 @9:30PM
         Really??? by 9/28/08 @4:12PM
         This is just stupid by 12/06/08 @9:27PM
   really now? by 10/04/08 @12:22PM
   what by 10/04/08 @4:34PM
   why by 10/07/08 @7:47PM
   This is not a good case by 12/06/08 @9:11PM
   what?? by 10/29/09 @5:25PM
rules
by (#203844) on 9/27/08 @10:32PM
 the rules arent going to make to much of a difference for the "dislogement" of the ball
 
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Let's ask the obvious question: Why not just...
by (#126084) on 9/28/08 @10:25AM
 Use older molds for heads.
Point one: Did Brine, Stx, and Warrior really dispose of their older model molds?

At what point (with what models)respective to brand, did heads become illegal?

I don't have any of my Edges from high school anymore, but I imagine that they would qualify. Similarly, the X2 I used frshman year of college was very wide. I understand the problem with excessive cost in retooling machines to produce a former product and the immediate devaluation of the current non-conforming stock on the shelves, but I strongly believe the companies will have a hard time marketing these new products for any reason other than that they conform to standards.
"Less ball control!"
"Now 100% more rattle!"

Point Two: how much of the ball control issue is width of head and not depth of pocket? There were some pictures of Jacovina's stick on this site that showed a pocket that Queener would probably use.
How many players have pull-strings?
I understand that the game has rules, but they do little unless they are enforced.
Check everyone's stick before the game and at halftime.



 
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   agreed by 9/29/08 @2:48PM
rule change
by (#65589) on 9/28/08 @2:00PM
 Lacrosse is if not the fastest growing sport in america one of the fastest, because of how high scoring it is. People want to see goals, not groundballs. This rule change is going to make more groundballs happen and less goals being scored, making lacrosse less exiciting to watch.
 
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   playing level by 9/29/08 @9:38AM
   not really by 11/09/08 @10:37PM
      I want to see goals by 12/06/08 @9:39PM
         Agreed by 1/18/09 @6:57PM
not pinch, it's the off-set
by (#193912) on 9/29/08 @3:52PM
 true, the pinch of the head does make it harder to get the ball out, at least somewhat, and true, pull strings make it near impossible to get the ball out, and are also cheap and cheating. There has to be some honor in sports.
But what has really changed the game in offensive players' favor is the off-set. It adds 5-10 mph to everyones' shots. It makes cradling almost automatic. Try it, pick up an old, regular, straight head and cradle. Then pick up any off-set head, even an old Edge, the original. Regardless of head rattle, or anything like that, the ball just sits differently in the off-set. The off-set has a different center of gravy. The stick almost rocks in your hand naturally while running. It is harder to get a ball out of an off-set head than a straight head.
I am not saying skill levels and all that haven't gotten better. That is natural in all things. As a game evolves the players get better, more so than the equipment. But little tweaks in the equipment definitely change things. And the off-set definitely changed some of the small technique things like cradling, catching, shooting, all that. It tweaked them just enough that maybe this is what gives offensive players the edge the NCAA is referring to.
 
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by (#170726) on 9/29/08 @3:52PM
 Why do so few people hate this new rule. People are complaining that they will have to spend money on new heads, but its not like heads last that long anyways. The most I've ever gotten out of a head without it breaking is 2 years and the NCAA announced this rule long ago.

Another thing, yes, ball control is becoming an important issue. Too many times have I seen attackmen, who've by luck of genetics, are faster or bigger than everyone else on the field. These kids can barely throw and catch yet they are driving through defenses with ease. I would rather watch 6 players throwing and catching, executing a well planned play than just have one player dodge his defender, run through 3-4 guys and score.

And people are saying that it doesn't matter how pinched a head it. It does. Heads like the evo pro and voyce are seemingly impossible to dislodge the ball out of.

So in conclusion, I am glad that the NCAA made these rules and I am glad that warrior can cry in their failure to think about the new rules when they were announced instead of making stupid TI heads. I am however, upset that the NFHS chose not to go through with these rules even though this is where the example of players without stick skills is most prevalent.
 
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affects the defense too
by (#169590) on 9/30/08 @11:30AM
 First off, let me say that I think the rule is way to extreme. When heads like the proton aren't even legal, there is issues. They could have gotten what they wanted by just adding the measurement at the midpoint, they didn't need to change the bottom.

Aside from that, 2 things: 1, This rule change is going to hurt the momentum of lacrosse. Not sure why you ruin something good. I equate this rule change to making all basketball players wear converse all-stars.

2 : People are also forgetting that this is going to affect defensive players greatly as well. Think about how exciting it has been in recent years to see great LSM and defensive goals. Defensive players are part of the clear and offense. With these new stick heads, defensive players are going to have a heck of a time running the ball up field. So not only does this rule hurt offense, but it is going to hurt the excitement a defensive player brings scoring a goal.
 
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   It will help the defense alot more by 10/01/08 @3:09PM
      really by 12/06/08 @9:44PM
   (no subject) by 11/09/08 @10:44PM
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by (#204386) on 9/30/08 @1:48PM
 The game has definitely evolved over the years. I do not believe that there should be a change for all college lacrosse players. Take the Paul Rabil example, he was one of the best players in college lacrosse, and tore it up for the Cannons as a rookie. If you watched him in the MLL (which supposedly has the best defenders in the world) he tools on them too. Players are getting bigger, stronger, more athletic, and more skilled at the game of lacrosse. It is growing everywhere across America. I didn't even know what lacrosse was at the age of 12, and now kids are playing at that age, and some will be better than I could ever be. Also if players do not figure out a way to string the new (legal) heads so that they have great hold, then yes the game will suck. There will b ground balls left and right. People do want to see goals in lacrosse, and fast breaks with lsm, and defenders running the ball up. And for the attackman that happened to just run by 3-4 players and score...maybe your just not good. 3-4 players should be able to get the ball out of one players stick.
 
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by (#204403) on 9/30/08 @10:13PM
 no matter how much you widen the head you can still string it to hold the ball. this rule change is retarded.
 
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what if no heads are made?
by (#193912) on 10/01/08 @12:00PM
 Since the NCAA is just a little part of the company's business market, as it seems by the numbers that were mentioned, wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers all collectively decided they weren't going to bother to spend the money to retool. They weren't going to make any heads for 2010 NCAA specs. What would the NCAA do? I mean if no one makes heads for these new specs, they can't really force players to play with sticks that don't exist.
 
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         That's not true at all by 10/01/08 @8:58PM
            No, no, no, no! by 10/02/08 @7:45PM
               (no subject) by 10/05/08 @6:52PM
BS
by (#156595) on 10/01/08 @11:11PM
 NCAA are trying to make it easier to get the ball out, ridiculous! The easier the ball is to get out the more kids are adjusting their tear drop strings to hold the ball in. I play defense and have no problem with getting the ball away its the kids that make that tear drop so F'in tight that i have a problem with.
By the way isn't lax meant to be violent, If your so worried about getting hurt then go play soccer, or golf for that matter. I mean your taking the enjoyment out of the game.
And what about us defenders trying to run the ball up to mid line, what happens when we try to dodge or juke someone. it makes the game easier and that's bullsh&*t.
 
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break out a ruler!!!
by (#85242) on 10/02/08 @11:58AM
 I have had enough of reading some of these ignorant postings and decided, just moments ago, to measure my heads against the new stick dimensions. For this statement, I am using an STX Profile that has been used for a little over one season. The only part of this stick that was illegal under the 2010 rules is at the 1.5" mark where it would need to be 3," my profile was 2.75!" Are you kidding me?! Only a quarter of an inch! At the very bottom of the stick!!! This rule change will not affect the game as drastically as some of the nay-sayers are arguing. If you can't play with a Profile, then you do not deserve to play in college. Period. Besides, even if it did, the new rules change is intended to create a faster game of lacrosse where players must move the ball around more quickly and play a more team-based game. The rule should eliminate the "Paul Rabil example" playing style and euthanize some of these ridiculous one-man-against-the-world selfish playing styles. The ball won't be on the ground as much as some of you think. Players with the best stick skills will take hold of the game and replace the players who use tremendous athleticism to make up for deficiencies in skill. The game will speed up and be more fluid. Stalling warnings will diminish greatly since a player will have no other choice but to run away or pass because the defenders will be more able to take the ball away.

I, for one, don't feel these new dimensions are extreme enough.
 
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   (no subject) by 10/04/08 @12:33AM
      You play with Warrior sticks don't you?! by 10/06/08 @6:13PM
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by (#204386) on 10/02/08 @3:32PM
 Ok well Paul Rabil is a beast. He would run you over, but thats besides the point. The ball is moved around plenty in the game of lacrosse today. Its called offense. Watch any good team play. They all move the ball now. Guess who won the championship game? OH lords it was Syracuse with 8 players scoring goals. Johns Hopkins had 4 players score. And most players already run away or pass when a defender is on them. The worst part about this whole rule is that the players that are playing in college now, with sticks that will be illegal next year, have to adjust to the new heads.
 
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   (no subject) by 10/02/08 @9:58PM
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         Grammer check. (nt) by 10/06/08 @6:25PM
Go out and play
by (#144096) on 10/02/08 @4:29PM
 Ok, I understand everyone's a little heated on the subject.. but it really doesn't matter what you think. If the rule stands, it stands and we all need to dish out a little cash to get a wider head.. if it falls through, then good for it. Either way, everyone complaining and arguing about it doesn't solve anything. Just go play lax, end of story
 
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   word by 12/06/08 @9:51PM
"Snipers"
by (#194030) on 10/03/08 @12:14AM
 I think this is going to make all the porch and wing shooters that much bigger of weapons.
 
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   good by 12/06/08 @9:52PM
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by (#191711) on 10/03/08 @11:58AM
 i play defense and personally dont like the new specs. the game is beautiful as it is right now. i love when a guy with a tight stick can run all the way to the crease throuh 2 or 3 guys because that means i get to come in and put him on the ground. also the wider heads will hurt th D in clearing situations

but for those of u who think the game wont be as exciting because there will be less scoring are wrong. the ball will be on the ground more which means more chaos and big hits...i dont know about everyone else but i love turnovers
 
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   (no subject) by 10/03/08 @3:08PM
   i dont like that 2nd part by 12/06/08 @9:56PM
specs
by (#204488) on 10/03/08 @6:29PM
  this rule will be the downfall of lacrosse. Lacrosse has finaly become a marketable sport and this rule will only serve to undermine that. the reason the ball is harder to dislodge is that the athletes playing lacrosse are getting bigger stronger and faster. defenseman are not all of a sudden going to take it easy on offensive players because their sticks are wider they will still throw checks with the same amount of force it just might take one less to knock the ball loose. one of the points the ncaa has made is that the rule will lessen injuries due to defensmen not needing to hit the offensive players as hard. the problem is most major injuries seen on the lacrosse field happen when the ball is on the ground. either way this rule is only going to hurt the sport.
 
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   (no subject) by 10/04/08 @12:53AM
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      you're the tool by 10/12/08 @4:25PM
      to tafsm by 10/12/08 @11:42PM
Suck it up
by (#197249) on 10/09/08 @11:04PM
 I play high lacrosse in Illinois as a d-pole, and our state follows NCAA specs. And i'm pissed.
a.) If you have trouble dislodging the ball, then maybe you just aren't good at playing defense
b.) We have to use the new heads too
c.) Defense isn't supposed to be all about stick checks, but rather body position
I've played against many players who are big and strong and try to run through everybody and score, and generally with good position, a couple slap checks, and a good lift when they shoot and pass, they drop the ball. They shouldn't change the rules because of that. The newer heads have been good to the game.
Us d-poles just gotta suck it up.
 
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by (#107998) on 10/11/08 @12:47PM
 i feel like i should add this when doo some of the biggest hits happen in the game of lacrosse? When the ball is on the ground, with these new wide dimensions the ball will be there more and therefore more people not less will be getting hurt. like they say this is supposed to do
 
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Its the pocket....stupid ;)
by (#185297) on 10/11/08 @11:20PM
 I know that pinched heads certainly play a role in keeping the ball in the stick, but a lot of what I see is that the way the ball sits in the pocket is the determining factor for how "hard" or "easy" it is to knock a ball out.

Any pocket with the right kind of "hold", and the player cradles specifically to keep the ball in the area of the "hold", then that alone will keep the ball in whether or not the head is wide or tight. Players don't have to cradle in the box anymore because their strings can keep the ball in more effectively if the cradling is done at the waist.

I like pinched heads because I don't have as much ball rattle as with wider heads, and that gives me a more consistent shot or pass b/c the ball wont bounce into the wrong place just before I need to throw it somewhere.

The point is, players will just find someone who can string their pockets to keep the ball in just as well as before, and the only thing the new rules will do is put us out of our comfort zone for a while before we adapt to it.
 
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   (no subject) by 10/11/08 @11:26PM
you guys are retarded
by (#158529) on 10/12/08 @9:10PM
 I play defense in college right now for a very good team and trust me, the heads have FAR less to do with our inability to take the ball than their stick protection. the other day in practice, i played d on my friend, one of the best attackmen in the nation, and he used an old highwall. He scored 7 goals during 6 on 6 and i only took it from him once.

What you all don't seem to understand is that by interlocking the sidewalls, one can make an almost identical pocket to the ones we have now. I can string any offset head, nearly regardless of its width, so that it preforms just like my revo pro does.

This rule only helps mediocre defensemen and hurts mediocre attackmen. If you play division 1 lacrosse, this should not really affect your possesion.

 
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D
by (#204827) on 10/14/08 @1:53PM
 I dont agree with this rule change. While it is sometimes difficult to get a ball out of an offensive players stick it isnt because the head is sooo narrow that it wont come out. For most poles we enjoy taking the ball away from a player that has good ball controle. For me i enjoy playing with head that are more on the narrow side, like proton power, evo pros, and revo pros. Running with a long pole is sometimes hard enough when you have three guys riding you and taking swings at your 6ft of stick making this rule change will also screw the d guys as well.
 
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   Well by 10/14/08 @5:34PM
      well what by 10/15/08 @9:34AM
rule changes
by (#118477) on 11/08/08 @8:13PM
 Hey, give the rules committee a break. they need to earn a living just like everyone else. What else have they got to do ???
you know tinker here , tinker there and try to look effective, its a tough job, looking effective.
 
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by (#206107) on 11/19/08 @1:33PM
 this is crap, it has nothin to do wit the head. its all about how u string it. this rule will do nothin but piss off the lax companies and people that have to change to a differnet head and jus put more money into gettin a new head
 
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My Opinion
by (#148904) on 12/01/08 @6:39PM
 I understand why some people feel that the new 2010 specs should take place. It is true that the narrow heads of todays game do hold the ball well and makes it difficult for a defender to dislodge the ball from his opponent's stick. However I feel that offense and defense are perfectly well balanced in lacrosse. Any good defender can find a way to dislodge a ball from any attackers stick. It is only a matter of maintaining composure and keeping pressure on his attacker with strategically placed checks- and a little aggressiveness while still maintaining good body position- that gets the ball out. It is a sort of chess game withing the game between the attacker and his defender. Besides, if we were to widen the pockets players would be forced to slow down the pace of a game, which by definition is a fast paced, high-scoring game. The high scoring action of lacrosse is what makes the sport so unique. We don't want to turn lacrosse into soccer with sticks. The essence of a great sport is still there so why change the rules? We still have exciting overtime or even double overtime games that come down to the wire for each team and keeps the spectators at the edge of their seats. We still have low scoring games and shut-outs. We still have long periods of scoreless minutes where the defense just don't seem to give the offense an inch. Should the new 2010 specs take place, it would make a defenders job almost too easy. A double team would be almost a gauranteed turnover and a lacrosse game would turn into a sprint contest up and down the field rather than a lacrosse game. Players would be forced to pass the ball too often. Few would muster the courage to go one-on-one with their defender knowing that one check is all that would take to create a fast break going the other way. There is also the argument that the new specs would cut down on the aggressiveness of the game. Who wants to play a sport that uses terminology such as "shaft" and "head" and has MINIMAL contact? Surely not I. Who wants to play a sport where a skinny 14 year old who has never worked out or even worked hard for anything much in life can be as good a take-away defender as Nicky Polanco? Surely not I. What MAN wants to play a sport that is being geared to be as minimally aggressive as possible to cut down on injuries? Surely not I, for I use lacrosse as a means of releasing my days stress. In Conclusion, the game is fine as it is. There are as many people wanting to be defenders as there are people looking to be attackmen. The game is exciting to many and is becoming more and more popular every passing day, so why change it? It seems to be doing fine. A change in the head specs would cause a dramatic change in pace for the game, so why take that chance now when it is already growing so well in popularity just as it is? Take this all into heart before making such a careless decision.
 
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   thats cool (nt) by 12/06/08 @10:03PM
   Well nobody care's about your opinion by 12/15/08 @8:31PM
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by (#205741) on 1/18/09 @7:37PM
 Lacrosse used to be a form of war for the native americans when they first started the game. they played with no pads and wooden sticks as im sure everyone knows. so by widening the head to decrease injusries is stupid, lacrosse is a violent game it has been and always will be. if you cant deal with the pain you shouldnt be playing. so get over this "We need to make the sport more safe." the rule is in the NCAA. thats college. if you wanna make the sport more safe shouldnt you start at the youth level not the college level. college level players are trained to take the pain of lacrosse so saying it will make it more safe doesnt seem to make sense to me.
 
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by (#209958) on 1/23/09 @11:42PM
 hey Ian Peter Freelee just cuz paul rabil is ridiculous doesnt mean kids that get there ankles broke need to go make excuses so they dont look like they are terrible. paul rabil is amazing and it wasnt his stick that scored the goals its his skills. the changing of the lax specs is just an excuse to make life easier for fat d poles and while its not the stick that keeps the ball in its hwo the player protects it so ur wrong
 
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